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	<title>Comments on: Development Outlook: Midtown Miami &amp; Vicinity</title>
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		<title>By: resident</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After an initial boom thing look a lot slower. Circuit City&#039;s departure left a big hole behind that is unsightly and being filled on and off by fly-by-night operations selling Christmas decorations, Halloween supplies etc. If the place was so attractive and booming I am sure high visibility retailers would be fighting over it. Whole foods once rumored to want to erect operations there has apparently scrapped them as well. The number of winos, drunks, drug addicts and panhandlers seems to be exploding. Maybe if we get lucky the whole thing will fly someday but for now, aside from a few small mom and pop cheese &amp; wine places nothing much is happening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After an initial boom thing look a lot slower. Circuit City&#8217;s departure left a big hole behind that is unsightly and being filled on and off by fly-by-night operations selling Christmas decorations, Halloween supplies etc. If the place was so attractive and booming I am sure high visibility retailers would be fighting over it. Whole foods once rumored to want to erect operations there has apparently scrapped them as well. The number of winos, drunks, drug addicts and panhandlers seems to be exploding. Maybe if we get lucky the whole thing will fly someday but for now, aside from a few small mom and pop cheese &amp; wine places nothing much is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: LinZi</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LinZi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep up the great work! Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I think it will be also nice if you add &quot;send to email&quot; tool so people can forward the articles to their friends easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the great work! Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I think it will be also nice if you add &#8220;send to email&#8221; tool so people can forward the articles to their friends easily.</p>
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		<title>By: faith like</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[faith like]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good read.  Keep me updated! plz

Namaste]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good read.  Keep me updated! plz</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is a Cuban a foreigner to miami, is a mexican a foreigner to miami, you got white, blacks and i even know some chinese there...

Now spanish, French and italians are in the mix  because of all the design trend of the district and that makes it even more exciting

I rent my place to guy from Panama and he loves it there,,

Dam I wish i was there already!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is a Cuban a foreigner to miami, is a mexican a foreigner to miami, you got white, blacks and i even know some chinese there&#8230;</p>
<p>Now spanish, French and italians are in the mix  because of all the design trend of the district and that makes it even more exciting</p>
<p>I rent my place to guy from Panama and he loves it there,,</p>
<p>Dam I wish i was there already!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that area in red will soon be gentrified if development continues, but uber-upscale communities are tricky because you have to have a mix of incomes and socio-economic levels for a neighborhood to truly succeed. You can&#039;t have all low-income residents, but neither can you have all super-affluent either, and clearly, Midtown is being marketed toward highly-professional, highly-paid individuals. This strikes me as odd because the Miami area doesn&#039;t even have any real fortune-500 companies where developers could --at least -- target their execs. So, it&#039;s mostly going to be foreigners who are going to be buying property there, and frankly, if a neighborhood is made up of 50 - 70% foreigners, that&#039;s not a real American neighborhood; rather, it&#039;s just another tourist destination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that area in red will soon be gentrified if development continues, but uber-upscale communities are tricky because you have to have a mix of incomes and socio-economic levels for a neighborhood to truly succeed. You can&#8217;t have all low-income residents, but neither can you have all super-affluent either, and clearly, Midtown is being marketed toward highly-professional, highly-paid individuals. This strikes me as odd because the Miami area doesn&#8217;t even have any real fortune-500 companies where developers could &#8211;at least &#8212; target their execs. So, it&#8217;s mostly going to be foreigners who are going to be buying property there, and frankly, if a neighborhood is made up of 50 &#8211; 70% foreigners, that&#8217;s not a real American neighborhood; rather, it&#8217;s just another tourist destination.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Morningside, Buena Vista East, the Design District, Midtown Miami, and the new development along Edgewater are all positive factors in influencing Wynwood&#039;s evolution. Also, its not just Big Box retail. It&#039;s a vast and multifaceted project on what was a massive rail container storage yard with no infrastructure. For generations Wynwood and its low income community sat in the shadows of it. You think after all of this Wynwood is not going to change for the better!?? The map above, by the way, is color coded (red) to illustrate exactly what you refer to as the hood. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morningside, Buena Vista East, the Design District, Midtown Miami, and the new development along Edgewater are all positive factors in influencing Wynwood&#8217;s evolution. Also, its not just Big Box retail. It&#8217;s a vast and multifaceted project on what was a massive rail container storage yard with no infrastructure. For generations Wynwood and its low income community sat in the shadows of it. You think after all of this Wynwood is not going to change for the better!?? The map above, by the way, is color coded (red) to illustrate exactly what you refer to as the hood.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are nuts...Midtown Miami is surrounded by the hood. Not an attractive prospect at all for someone considering shelling out hundred&#039;s of thousands for a condo. Wynwood historically has been the hood. You have generation upon generation of people in Wynwood who earn under $12000 a year...that&#039;s working poor for those who are not in the know. You cannot and will not force those people out just because you built big box retail stores for the upper crust in the Urban core. Come on people wake up...Midtown cannot live up to the hype. What they needed to do was build affordable housing and retail for that community instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are nuts&#8230;Midtown Miami is surrounded by the hood. Not an attractive prospect at all for someone considering shelling out hundred&#8217;s of thousands for a condo. Wynwood historically has been the hood. You have generation upon generation of people in Wynwood who earn under $12000 a year&#8230;that&#8217;s working poor for those who are not in the know. You cannot and will not force those people out just because you built big box retail stores for the upper crust in the Urban core. Come on people wake up&#8230;Midtown cannot live up to the hype. What they needed to do was build affordable housing and retail for that community instead.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How cool would that be....

Developer sets sights on Orange Bowl area

By Risa Polansky
   Developers of Wynwood&#039;s Midtown Miami have pitched to Miami officials the idea of redeveloping the neighborhood around the Orange Bowl in conjunction with the county&#039;s plan to build a stadium for the Florida Marlins on the site.
   Representatives of Developers Diversified Realty met with city staffers this month to express interest in &quot;creating a redevelopment plan for this venue and surrounding neighborhood,&quot; wrote Daniel Herman, senior VP of development, in an e-mail to city officials.
   He declined to comment for this article but used the e-mail to &quot;remind&quot; city officials of &quot;our successful joint effort to transform the former FEC rail yard&quot; through the Midtown project.
   &quot;This is a fantastic example of a public-private partnership that has revitalized and invigorated a once crime ridden and depressed area,&quot; Mr. Herman wrote.
   But activists and city officials at a recent City Commission meeting questioned Midtown&#039;s follow-through, talking of an expensive and inconvenient automated garage system in a project intended to offer free parking.
   According to the letter, the company plans &quot;to spend some of our own time and energy to see if we could offer some suggestions to the city&quot; for the Orange Bowl area, though city officials &quot;have stated that you are not currently working with any developer.&quot;
   City Manager Pete Hernandez&#039; office said he met with the developers as a courtesy and that it&#039;s too &quot;early in the game&quot; to set any plans in motion.
   Developing the area could involve taking private property for a private purpose, which is sanctioned by the US Supreme Court.
   When the issue of eminent domain involving the Orange Bowl came up at last week&#039;s county commission meeting, county officials said no condemnation of private property would be necessary in order to build the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cool would that be&#8230;.</p>
<p>Developer sets sights on Orange Bowl area</p>
<p>By Risa Polansky<br />
   Developers of Wynwood&#8217;s Midtown Miami have pitched to Miami officials the idea of redeveloping the neighborhood around the Orange Bowl in conjunction with the county&#8217;s plan to build a stadium for the Florida Marlins on the site.<br />
   Representatives of Developers Diversified Realty met with city staffers this month to express interest in &#8220;creating a redevelopment plan for this venue and surrounding neighborhood,&#8221; wrote Daniel Herman, senior VP of development, in an e-mail to city officials.<br />
   He declined to comment for this article but used the e-mail to &#8220;remind&#8221; city officials of &#8220;our successful joint effort to transform the former FEC rail yard&#8221; through the Midtown project.<br />
   &#8220;This is a fantastic example of a public-private partnership that has revitalized and invigorated a once crime ridden and depressed area,&#8221; Mr. Herman wrote.<br />
   But activists and city officials at a recent City Commission meeting questioned Midtown&#8217;s follow-through, talking of an expensive and inconvenient automated garage system in a project intended to offer free parking.<br />
   According to the letter, the company plans &#8220;to spend some of our own time and energy to see if we could offer some suggestions to the city&#8221; for the Orange Bowl area, though city officials &#8220;have stated that you are not currently working with any developer.&#8221;<br />
   City Manager Pete Hernandez&#8217; office said he met with the developers as a courtesy and that it&#8217;s too &#8220;early in the game&#8221; to set any plans in motion.<br />
   Developing the area could involve taking private property for a private purpose, which is sanctioned by the US Supreme Court.<br />
   When the issue of eminent domain involving the Orange Bowl came up at last week&#8217;s county commission meeting, county officials said no condemnation of private property would be necessary in order to build the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: crimes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s funny.  i thought the same exact thing. 

i think the lack of theatres in downtown is attirbutable to the financial realities of the business model.  nowadays, the megaplex model (i.e., 20+ screens etc.) is the way to go.  thus, you need a good amount of space along with the prospect of drawing large crowds (at all times during the day).  i&#039;m not sure either criteria has been met in the context of midtown or downtown.

the met is supposed to have a theater but that buidling hasn&#039;t even gotten out   of the ground yet...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s funny.  i thought the same exact thing. </p>
<p>i think the lack of theatres in downtown is attirbutable to the financial realities of the business model.  nowadays, the megaplex model (i.e., 20+ screens etc.) is the way to go.  thus, you need a good amount of space along with the prospect of drawing large crowds (at all times during the day).  i&#8217;m not sure either criteria has been met in the context of midtown or downtown.</p>
<p>the met is supposed to have a theater but that buidling hasn&#8217;t even gotten out   of the ground yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blanche Nonoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blanche Nonoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is the movie theater to service the community?
In all of downtown there aren&#039;t any theaters, 
what a business oversight
Many condos, stores, restaurants, but no movies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the movie theater to service the community?<br />
In all of downtown there aren&#8217;t any theaters,<br />
what a business oversight<br />
Many condos, stores, restaurants, but no movies!</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did I mention i am a Frenchy living in UK where pound =2$ already??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I mention i am a Frenchy living in UK where pound =2$ already??</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-7766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And remember real estate in the us is alredy correcting...whereas the one in europe and gb isnt yet...

usd is still usd ..create a new $..real estate will go up again...

by the way once the parity is 1euros=2 dollars and i would have paid off my apt at discount...that will be the time to create the new $ so i can let it run the other way around with price rising

how many francs is 500,000 euros...3.33 mio francs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And remember real estate in the us is alredy correcting&#8230;whereas the one in europe and gb isnt yet&#8230;</p>
<p>usd is still usd ..create a new $..real estate will go up again&#8230;</p>
<p>by the way once the parity is 1euros=2 dollars and i would have paid off my apt at discount&#8230;that will be the time to create the new $ so i can let it run the other way around with price rising</p>
<p>how many francs is 500,000 euros&#8230;3.33 mio francs</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
		<link>http://bobmiami.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/development-outlook-midtown-miami-vicinity/#comment-7765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we re just starting to see who holds miami real estate..flippers get out ..investors stay....construction stops for a while...rents are driven up...

transportation systems improves..downtown miami abd the biscayne corridor start to look stunning....

that s my scenario....hopefully down 100k up 300 in the next 5 years... 

Its volatile but interesting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we re just starting to see who holds miami real estate..flippers get out ..investors stay&#8230;.construction stops for a while&#8230;rents are driven up&#8230;</p>
<p>transportation systems improves..downtown miami abd the biscayne corridor start to look stunning&#8230;.</p>
<p>that s my scenario&#8230;.hopefully down 100k up 300 in the next 5 years&#8230; </p>
<p>Its volatile but interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: crimes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re assuming that they can cover the carry for several years.  if not, it doesn&#039;t matter if they don&#039;t want to sell for a cheaper price...they&#039;ll be forced to.  you&#039;re already seeing it happen in certain buildings...albeit, in limited instances.  not to mention, if you&#039;re willing to carry, during this time, appreciation will be minimal if at all.  although i don&#039;t believe with jack mccabe&#039;s assessment in the herald today, he&#039;s hitting on a lot of points that i would agree with.  more importantly, if you&#039;re an investor, why would you hold out for several years to make a minimal return once transaction costs are factored in?  why park your money in this illiquid investment when you can put it into the market and get a better rate of return immediately?  outside of an inability to grasp reality, the real investor will accept his loss, plow the money elsewhere and get some credit on the tax return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re assuming that they can cover the carry for several years.  if not, it doesn&#8217;t matter if they don&#8217;t want to sell for a cheaper price&#8230;they&#8217;ll be forced to.  you&#8217;re already seeing it happen in certain buildings&#8230;albeit, in limited instances.  not to mention, if you&#8217;re willing to carry, during this time, appreciation will be minimal if at all.  although i don&#8217;t believe with jack mccabe&#8217;s assessment in the herald today, he&#8217;s hitting on a lot of points that i would agree with.  more importantly, if you&#8217;re an investor, why would you hold out for several years to make a minimal return once transaction costs are factored in?  why park your money in this illiquid investment when you can put it into the market and get a better rate of return immediately?  outside of an inability to grasp reality, the real investor will accept his loss, plow the money elsewhere and get some credit on the tax return.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It s actually a message to end users : the projects looks great rent now...and wait that owners feel the pressure to lower their selling prices that are supposedly gonna be 250$ a sqfoot in the future...then buy it from them at discount.....

I don&#039;t believe it will happen ...you might get people selling their condos now at around 300$ a sqfoot because thy don&#039;t want to close...but don&#039;t count on them give it away at lower prices after they paid the carry all those years...

What you can expect is cheap rent prices now slowly increased every year untill rents command higher selling prices in 3 -5 years  My guess...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It s actually a message to end users : the projects looks great rent now&#8230;and wait that owners feel the pressure to lower their selling prices that are supposedly gonna be 250$ a sqfoot in the future&#8230;then buy it from them at discount&#8230;..</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it will happen &#8230;you might get people selling their condos now at around 300$ a sqfoot because thy don&#8217;t want to close&#8230;but don&#8217;t count on them give it away at lower prices after they paid the carry all those years&#8230;</p>
<p>What you can expect is cheap rent prices now slowly increased every year untill rents command higher selling prices in 3 -5 years  My guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrenchyMiami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow... harsh reality or wishful thinking to buy in cheap?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; harsh reality or wishful thinking to buy in cheap?</p>
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		<title>By: crimes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s get some perspective here...

(1)  the midtown project actually is looking really good from the time i&#039;ve spent over there. 

(2)  in the long term, i.e., 10/15 years or so, this area stands a great chance of reinventing itself.  drive a block away and its still a VERY rough area.  go three blocks west and it looks like the street where Ricky got shot down in front of Tre.  don&#039;t expect this neighborhood to change dramatically in five years.  a lot of developers are still grappling with the amazing amount of construction that has taken place in a very short span of time.  more importantly, notwithstanding some wealthy pockets of residences in the area, for the most part, this is a very poor area.  

(3) the pricing of the units themselves are absurd (throw parclofts into this discussion while i&#039;m at it).  what is the average time a condo unit owner holds his place?  4/5 years?  why should today&#039;s buyer be paying for what the neighborhood will be in 10 years?  really, as much as like target, why should i pay 300+ sq ft to live next to it?  just doesn&#039;t make sense.

(4) the rental situation is pretty good for those that are interested.  i&#039;m hearing prices around $1,500 for a good sized unit.  makes me wonder if the owners are coming remotely close to covering their carry.  

(5) this conversation completely ignores the maintenance fee situation in the project.  midtown 2 hasn&#039;t been turned over to the ass&#039;n and they&#039;re already at 70 cents a sq ft.  that&#039;s nutty and only going to get worse.     

(6) cynergi is an absolute  dump (looks nothing like the advertising promos a few years ago) and is going to take a massive hit.  you&#039;ll see 30%+ walkaways at that building.  it was targeted toward investors (i was at the promo party - my anecdotal experience was that i don&#039;t remember meeting one end user...a lot of flight capital however).  preconstruction alone was over $400 sq ft.  i wouldn&#039;t be surprised if cynergi either goes back to the bank or the developer files an 11 for the project.  

in sum, my beef is that the pricing for midtown doesn&#039;t match the location .  the project itself looks great (considering the developer&#039;s previously botched efforts at nirvana...i&#039;m holding my breath).  once the pricing moves to the mid 200s a sq ft or lower in the next year and a half (some say the platinum auction was a fluke...i humbly disagree) this project becomes extremely attractive for end users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get some perspective here&#8230;</p>
<p>(1)  the midtown project actually is looking really good from the time i&#8217;ve spent over there. </p>
<p>(2)  in the long term, i.e., 10/15 years or so, this area stands a great chance of reinventing itself.  drive a block away and its still a VERY rough area.  go three blocks west and it looks like the street where Ricky got shot down in front of Tre.  don&#8217;t expect this neighborhood to change dramatically in five years.  a lot of developers are still grappling with the amazing amount of construction that has taken place in a very short span of time.  more importantly, notwithstanding some wealthy pockets of residences in the area, for the most part, this is a very poor area.  </p>
<p>(3) the pricing of the units themselves are absurd (throw parclofts into this discussion while i&#8217;m at it).  what is the average time a condo unit owner holds his place?  4/5 years?  why should today&#8217;s buyer be paying for what the neighborhood will be in 10 years?  really, as much as like target, why should i pay 300+ sq ft to live next to it?  just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>(4) the rental situation is pretty good for those that are interested.  i&#8217;m hearing prices around $1,500 for a good sized unit.  makes me wonder if the owners are coming remotely close to covering their carry.  </p>
<p>(5) this conversation completely ignores the maintenance fee situation in the project.  midtown 2 hasn&#8217;t been turned over to the ass&#8217;n and they&#8217;re already at 70 cents a sq ft.  that&#8217;s nutty and only going to get worse.     </p>
<p>(6) cynergi is an absolute  dump (looks nothing like the advertising promos a few years ago) and is going to take a massive hit.  you&#8217;ll see 30%+ walkaways at that building.  it was targeted toward investors (i was at the promo party &#8211; my anecdotal experience was that i don&#8217;t remember meeting one end user&#8230;a lot of flight capital however).  preconstruction alone was over $400 sq ft.  i wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if cynergi either goes back to the bank or the developer files an 11 for the project.  </p>
<p>in sum, my beef is that the pricing for midtown doesn&#8217;t match the location .  the project itself looks great (considering the developer&#8217;s previously botched efforts at nirvana&#8230;i&#8217;m holding my breath).  once the pricing moves to the mid 200s a sq ft or lower in the next year and a half (some say the platinum auction was a fluke&#8230;i humbly disagree) this project becomes extremely attractive for end users.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have a good one...latest says the Midtowm 3 site has been sold to DDR for more shops and restaurants..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a good one&#8230;latest says the Midtowm 3 site has been sold to DDR for more shops and restaurants..</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Zayas-Bazan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier Zayas-Bazan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[´thanks for the update Frenchyª Youre like the ultimate Midtown correspondent. Içm in Spain right now. Içll follow up when I return]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>´thanks for the update Frenchyª Youre like the ultimate Midtown correspondent. Içm in Spain right now. Içll follow up when I return</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchyMiami</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MIDTOWN MODIFICATION: Miami commissioners tabled last week a measure that would have removed the residential component requirement from the definition of mixed-use buildings in the Midtown Miami special district. If passed, the ordinance would define a mixed-use building in the area as a combination of residential, retail, office and/or live-work uses, allowing for retail/office combinations.

Offices and maybe hotel on Midtown 1 site are coming to Midtown]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIDTOWN MODIFICATION: Miami commissioners tabled last week a measure that would have removed the residential component requirement from the definition of mixed-use buildings in the Midtown Miami special district. If passed, the ordinance would define a mixed-use building in the area as a combination of residential, retail, office and/or live-work uses, allowing for retail/office combinations.</p>
<p>Offices and maybe hotel on Midtown 1 site are coming to Midtown</p>
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